He also reveals if the show will go back to Rome, whether we’ll meet Alfie’s new girlfriend, and how that Brigitte Macron cameo came about.

Emily in Paris’ season four finale (warning: spoilers ahead!) ended on quite an uplifting note, with Emily moving to Rome for the near future to run Agence Grateau’s Italian office, and a promising new romance with Marcello Muratori. The same optimistic ending was true for her BFF, Mindy, who appeared to have a new hit song on her hands and an invite to become a judge on Chinese Pop Star. (Hey, sometimes getting disqualified from Eurovision and breaking up with Nico can result in some great things!)

Meanwhile, Gabriel was awarded a Michelin star (anyone else totally surprised at how fast that happened?), Alfie found happiness with a mysterious new girlfriend, and Sylvie landed a major account with the Muratori family (okay, so it’s only a six-month trial run, but still). And yes, Gabriel now wants Emily back after her sweet gesture speaking French, but complicated relationships are Emily in Paris’s thing, so bring it on.

Still, Netflix actually has to renew Emily in Paris first—and assuming it will—we Zoomed with creator Darren Star from Rome to get the lowdown on all those developments in the season four finale while looking ahead to what’s next for your favorite Parisian—and Italian–crew.

_{Eugenio Franceschini as Marcello, and Lily Collins as Em}